All things Philosophical. discussion

The other idea associated recently for me with epistemology (knowledge) and axiology (value) is ontology. This is the study of being (one part of which is being human)

I'll merely add to that that 'being human' is more exactingly a part of Humanism or existentialism. Ontology is about Being. Otherwise I like this thread.

There we go minor adjustment to the wording. I was studying the terms ontological, epistemological and axiological for my education course.

That is the exactly correct correction I was looking for as Ontology is the study of being qua being. Existentialism is an attempt to start as an existant and "...attempt to draw all the consequences from a position of consistent atheism". That is to say you start as an existant and just examine things as can actually be examined by something that exists and to go no further. Going into to Being qua Being would be going further. Humanism is just a more specifically human version of this.

For an education course? Ontology seems like an odd piece of subject matter unless it was about correcting the use of overly ontological language? That is to say language that suggests things exist as things even when they don't strictly speaking.

Yes well it was about looking at how we must understand our beliefs about being (particularly in the case of education, being teacher or being student) in order to understand how we 'value' (that's axiology for you) students and again value knowledge (epistemology). of course that's a very rough generalised approach to what we were looking at.

Seems like they just felt like breaking a system down to its component parts just for the hell of doing so. By which I mean you don't need to know the ontology part when in practice understanding beliefs about being students and/or teachers,(the and/or is because I am assuming that you are being taught that this is an in flux relationship were the roles may sometimes be reversed?), is always going to be axiological while the mere part about 'understanding' makes it a piece of epistemological interest in and of itself. I'd seriously have to ask why they were breaking it down that much when in practice they will always be intertwined?

Yes well I've gathered that people like to classify into groups. Perhaps breaking it all down allowed that more easily. We were being taught yes that there is often when we learn from students - and I do believe that from observation.

I think that the study of being is a fascinating one because no matter how rationally or logically you try and approach it like anything beliefs will influence your views upon it. Some will say we just are: the 'I think therefore I am' mentality. Others will believe that they were brought to be and so on. My lit tutor jokingly pointed out how in a lecture that we could all be dead which ties a little to epistemology but also to the idea of understanding if we live. There are interesting thoughts to be had on the whole subject.

For more on the fallaciously ontological use of language consider reading W.V.O Quine. Ontology is indeed very interesting. It has a toe in every pool so to type.

Ah that sounds like an interesting topic so thank you for the recommendation.