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Last chapter is on the conflicts between communal piety and the mendicants/ inquisition
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resurrection and renewal. Lay reception of species of wine stopped in 1100s. On Good Friday the bishop communicated with host from the day before and dropped a particle into unconsecrated wine which he drank. Babies awaiting Easter baptism participated in scrutinies. Dancing during the Easter season. Easter processions. Tenebrae. Repetitive catechetical homilies by design.
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Feasting, fasting & doing penance. confession & penance. People feasting up until midnight before Ash Wednesday
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Fred
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kissing the pax was the kiss of peace and was a substitute for communion. Also, unconsecrated rolls were blessed at the end of Mass. I saw this in a paraliturgical 13-week novena in an Italian American parish. When lay people received communion, they drank unconsecrated wine to clear out their mouths afterward
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Fred
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The City Worships. Lots on communion: from 3x a year to frequent. Kissing a pax instead of receiving communion. Lay innovation of kneeling, apparently rooted in the Gospel of the pharisee and the sinner. Lay demands for elevation of hosts and bells at elevation, so people could look at the host. Pyx in church for reservation of sacrament. Increase in confession.
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"Kneeling to pray or express reverence was relatively new in the thirteenth century, and it was a lay habit. The clergy chanted their prayers sitting or standing. Priests still made a deep bow to the cross as a gesture of respect; the lay faithful preferred to kneel {…] not all priests like laypeople's freedom of bodily expression. Better that the laity conform to clerical styles, like standing for prayer" (238)
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Fred
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and lay acclamation
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Fred
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holy persons & holy places. What makes a saint: honesty in business, small kindnesses & forgiveness, paying taxes & fines, avoiding special treatment, caring for the poor & sick, asceticism and miracles.
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Fred
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also: what a very urban christianity!
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Fred
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this chapter was really lively with weddings, processions, candles, and bells. Weddings typically took place in the home where a couple would live, and the priest was optional
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Fred
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The Holy City. Cities had carts which were similar to college mascots in that they would despoil them from each other in battle. Frederick II turns up a lot in this chapter as do lots of local saints, conveniently discovered. Private heresy tolerated as not a threat to the city
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from conversion to community. Details about penitential groups, their customs, pre-rosary use of paters for the hours, their growing privileges and wealth, and how they eventually fell under control of the Franciscans
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Fred
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Finished chapter 1: The mother church. Interesting how the bishops centralized baptism, the nave as the domain of the laity-which they owned and decorated and ran as a market, local holiness and community was more important than doctrinal perfection: certain tolerance of Cathers who contributed locally.
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What fascinates me above all in this book is its character as a personal exploration for Thompson. As a Dominican, he has been formed in the mendicant tradition begun by St. Francis, and yet he is interested in what preceded the mendicant movement. He's interested in the vibrant lay life of the Communes, which the Dominicans and Franciscans re-ordered along clerical lines.
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Fred
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What fascinates me above all in this book is its character as a personal exploration for Thompson. As a Dominican, he has been formed in the mendicant tradition begun by St. Francis, and yet he is interested in what preceded the mendicant movement. He's interested in the vibrant lay life of the Communes, which the Dominicans and Franciscans re-ordered along clerical lines.
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