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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 438 of 679
Braudel cites a 1940s book about Dante which argues that the legendary voyages of Saint Brenden are an Irish version of the voyages of sinbad the sailer.

I believe the manuscript history of St.Brenden stories predates the Sinbad tradition which complicates matters slightly...
Feb 21, 2026 01:07PM Add a comment
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 413 of 679
The slow process of change and cultural adoption. Use of Arabic numerals forbidden in Florence-1299, likewise in Freiburg in 1520, used in Antwerp only from the end of the 16th century.

Spread of paper, Bagdad 794, 11th century Valencia and Greece, western europe from circa 1350

'Spanish' men's fashion that emerged 14th century stemmed from Siberia while the women's fashions from Cyprus came from Tang China
Feb 21, 2026 01:09AM 2 comments
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 412 of 679
Braudel says that even now (ie 1960s) the lifestyle in Croatia, despite being mixed with many other influences, is like that in Italy, although of an Italy of long ago.

Here I would have liked some examples - which even the footnotes deny me.
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 402 of 679
Coffee arrived in Constantinople around 1550, in venice about 1580, it only reach France and England in the 17th century (Marseille- 1646)
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 391 of 679
Bandits might be supportrd by the local nobility, in.some regions relations seem particularly close - catalonia, southern Italy and Sicily, the papal states.
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 308 of 679
The Ottoman Turks defeat the Mamluks by using artillery (the mamluks apparently thought it was a dishonourable weapon and so shunned it). Artillery was the basis Braudel notes for the success of France, Muscovy (against Kazan at least), and Spain against Granada.
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 297 of 679
At the end of the 14th century the Mediterranean belonged to the cities and the city states, larger states like the Byzantine empireand the kingdom of Aragón were the product of their large cities.
This situation changed completelyduring the 15th century
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 279 of 679
English Levant company between 1581 and 1592 was making profits of up to 300%; but in 1595 the company was operating 15 ships with a total crew of 790. Mainly sailing to Egypt, Cyprus, and the Aegean. Less often to Venice and Algiers.

Presumably mostly smaller vessels buying high value luxury goods - spices, carpets, silk
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 262 of 679
Importing grain from distant countries was a clear sign of overall prosperity, although it was catastrophic for the poor.
Feb 14, 2026 03:33AM 2 comments
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 242 of 679
In Portugal grain was pushed out by vines and olive trees. Grain was increasingly imported from Flanders and the Baltic region - this trade was conducted by Bretons who sold the grain in Lisbon for gold.

Later the Bretons were also transporting grain to Galicia
Feb 14, 2026 01:13AM 1 comment
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 228 of 679
There was bread for the poor and bread for the rich and only the latter was made from wheat.
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 219 of 679
Pepper. I woke up in the dark hours of last night thinking about this. On the XVIth century Portugal controlled the supply of pepper to Europe. In 1586 Phillip II signed a contract for a consortium to buy up that pepper for wholsale into European countries at a fixed rate. The consortium had 20 shares, 7 of which were held by the Fuggers - a German banking family
Feb 13, 2026 09:09AM 3 comments
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 154 of 679
To pay for the war in Flanders, the king of Spain sent ships loaded with silver from Barcelona to Genoa. Sometimes, ships were lost at sea - but not so often as the insurance premium that the spanish were paying was 1.5%
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 131 of 679
The story goes that in Mali in 1450 salt was exchanged for its own weight in gold
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 82 of 679
At the same time as there was emigration from Spain chiefly to the Americas there was also imigration into Spain mostly from the Auvergne.
Jan 26, 2026 12:43PM 8 comments
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 50 of 679
Sardinia and Corsica as semi-closed economic zones. Very little money in circulation in Corsica, therefore taxes could be paid in goods - grain, cgestnuts, silkworms, or oil. While a school teacher might be paid 40 liters of grain a year for their work.
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 48 of 679
Sardines in the text.

I tell you, if there is a fish in a book that I read, it will mostly be a sardine.
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 30 of 679
Time and space were relative. News travelled between Venice and Cairo in the half the time that it went between Venice and Corfu even though ships haf to pass Corfu on their way to Cairo.
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Jan-Maat
Jan-Maat is on page 27 of 679
News of a secret peace agreement between Venice and the Ottoman turks signed on thec4th of april1573 was known in Rome on the 8th of april and in Palermo and madrid on the 17th of april. I wonder if the news would have spread more slowly if it had not been secret
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