Status Updates From Platons Der Staat

As usual, I have finished but I wanna give some little thoughts for this book:
1. Again, Socrates (or Plato) REALLY held utilitarianism in high place; art, in his words more or less, should serve function for it to be accepted in the town. Human expressions in it is deemed as unreasoning, like, wth?
2. The past life argument is quite weak for the end of the whole book, I didn't expect it but okay I guess...

I am having a horrible time.

"And let us equally refuse to believe, or allow to be repeated, the tale of Theseus son of Poseidon, and Peirithous son of Zeus, going forth as they did to perpetrate a horrid rape"

Based.

Part 9 Imperfect societies - completed
Part 10 - The Theory of Art - completed

Second to last chapter. This one is the most boring, I changed my mind. It explains about how tyrannical city and soul is very messy and eventually, only the life led by justice will persevere.

Oh, the only interesting part is from (572), that every man has this innate evil desires which is repressed in daily life but revealed in dreams. Yo, Psychoanalysis!

Eu re banco lo que dice Adimanto (no sostiene que esté bien, pero dice que es la lógica de la sociedad:
¿Cómo pretendemos que la gente ame la justicia, si desde chica le enseñamos que lo valioso no es ser justa, sino parecerlo y recibir premios? “¿Para qué voy a ser realmente justo, si puedo obtener todas sus ventajas aparentando serlo y, al mismo tiempo, disfrutar de los beneficios de la injusticia?”

Glaucón plantea: ¿Seguirías siendo justa si tuvieras la certeza absoluta de que nadie descubrirá lo que hiciste?
¿la justicia sigue siendo mejor cuando te arruina la vida exteriormente, y si la injusticia sigue siendo mala cuando te da absolutamente todo lo que querés?

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This one is by far the most boring one, yet nearing the end, in the tyranny explanation, all of them are the exact same things happening in Indonesia WTHHHHH I'm laughing so hard ngl.

In short, the ultimate city is a city that loves virtue; once the target deviates, it degenerates into:
1. Timocracy (honour)
2. Oligarchy (property)
3. Democracy (liberty)
4. Tyranny (demagogue)

Kinda Polybius' Anacyclosis

This one is goated but I might be mistaking many stuff. However, I love this book because it emphasize the importance of education and how, after one is liberated, should one contribute back to the overall happiness of the just "city". This book talks about math as compulsory study and dialectic as the highest form of study. I can't help thinking Socrates perfect with the woman empowerment quote in the end. 3/4 done!