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Appreciated the criticism of His Needs, Her Needs, which we read during premarital counseling and seemed to imply that if your spouse leaves, it’s your fault for not meet his/her needs.

“In both commands—submit and love—the focus is on what we give, not on what we get.”

The arguments in chapters 3 and 4 were much more solid, and the discussion on those controversial passages in Corinthians was helpful.

I’m complementarian, but his arguments didn’t really connect. First he says be careful not to make patterns prescriptive, then he does just that. For example, we know the men mistreated women (mentioned in pattern 4) because of other scripture (not mentioned), but pattern 1 (male leadership) would benefit from how we know this from scripture, as the pattern itself can be explained away by a patriarchal society.

“The man and women were given joint rule over creation.” I’m not sure I’ve actually heard that stated. Always assumed the position was male rule with female help.