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[x] Erec and Enide
[x] Cliges
[ ] The Knight of the Cart
[ ] The Knight of the Lion
[ ] The Story of the Grail
Chretien, explaining the premise of "Cliges" to Marie de Champagne: "Tristan and Isolde are ADULTERERS and TERRIBLE, but my OCs are PURE and BASED because they're CHRISTIANS and NOT ADULTERERS"
Marie: "...Okay, fine, whatever, but after this you need to write Lancelot x Guinevere"
— Mar 30, 2026 05:05PM
[x] Cliges
[ ] The Knight of the Cart
[ ] The Knight of the Lion
[ ] The Story of the Grail
Chretien, explaining the premise of "Cliges" to Marie de Champagne: "Tristan and Isolde are ADULTERERS and TERRIBLE, but my OCs are PURE and BASED because they're CHRISTIANS and NOT ADULTERERS"
Marie: "...Okay, fine, whatever, but after this you need to write Lancelot x Guinevere"
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[x] Erec and Enide
[ ] Cliges
[ ] The Knight of the Cart
[ ] The Knight of the Lion
[ ] The Story of the Grail
Not only are Erec and Enide endearingly comic, the narrative voice is pretty sassy: “I could tell you about xyz, but I have other things I’d rather do.” (a paraphrase, but not by much)
I laughed when a count tries to woo Enide with a dramatic speech, and she replies, “Okay, but I don’t care.”
— Mar 23, 2026 11:33PM
[ ] Cliges
[ ] The Knight of the Cart
[ ] The Knight of the Lion
[ ] The Story of the Grail
Not only are Erec and Enide endearingly comic, the narrative voice is pretty sassy: “I could tell you about xyz, but I have other things I’d rather do.” (a paraphrase, but not by much)
I laughed when a count tries to woo Enide with a dramatic speech, and she replies, “Okay, but I don’t care.”
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My take on this is that Erec and Enide, Cliges, and Yvain are chivalric romances played straight while in Lancelot and Perceval the genre is already evolving into playful deconstruction. Perceval is weird and funny and doesn't fully understand chivalry because he's a bumpkin and Lancelot is weird and funny and doesn't fully understand chivalry because he's otherwordly. In both cases their grasp oh honor and rules is sketchy and both stories use Gawain for contrast because he's the very image of a perfect knight. So Cliges and Lancelot do the same thing very differently but they both work
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bookslayer wrote: "My take on this is that Erec and Enide, Cliges, and Yvain are chivalric romances played straight while in Lancelot and Perceval the genre is already evolving into playful deconstruction. Perceval i..."Your take is the same as mine; just the opening paragraphs of "Lancelot" are hilarious as he goes out of his way to flatter Marie de Champagne while not flattering her "like lesser artists flatter their patrons," and then all but says 'if you don't like what's in the story, that's on her; she gave me the plot notes'
I'm also happy he dives into Lancelot's otherworldliness; the whole "du Lac" part is underutilized in modern Arthuriana imo
We love the story, Chrétien!! Sending all my love from the XXI century and I hope you can somehow feel it in the great unknown!YESS EXACTLY I am honestly shocked by how modernity bases itself off the later tradition and ignores his awkward earnestness in favor of... literally anything else. He's basically the OG alien weirdo love interest and it's just sad that this has become obscure lore and not the main theme of the character
