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On Goethe’s concept of the Urpflanze (archetypal plant)...’Everything is leaf’ is Goethe’s final finding, but he is perfectly aware of that verbal embarrassments and misunderstandings that such a theory must needs produce; he himself anticipated the objections which Helmholtz was later to raise to this monistic simplification, showing the tautological character of Goethe’s theory...
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Nicht Gott, nur alles leugn' ich, was ihn leugnet, Und wenn er will, ist alles wunderbar.
The satirist Karl Kraus brought to life a world whose every breath was a denial of God's designs, and was the chaos that decided that His will should not be done.
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It's worth emphasizing that Goethe was very clear in stating that the Urpflanze was a mental abstraction, not an actual thing.
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It ultimately all goes back to the Neoplatonists, I daresay. I've never seen the Christian mystic who didn't essentially recapitulate Plotinus and Proclus. If Goethe's biographer Rüdiger Safranski is to be believed, the status of this Urphänomen was the essence of Goethe's disagreement Schiller, and the fulcrum of their productive antagonism: Schiller thought the idea was primary and the actual thing derivative, and Goethe held the reverse conviction. They both worked toward the same center from opposite sides, and thus had a kind of creative complementarity. That does seem right to me.
Barnaby wrote: "It ultimately all goes back to the Neoplatonists, I daresay. I've never seen the Christian mystic who didn't essentially recapitulate Plotinus and Proclus. If Goethe's biographer Rüdiger Safransk..."
Ah, the Neoplatonists! Of course, thanks for reminding me about them...it’s been almost 30 years since I read Plotinus, I really should get back to it soon...
And your comment on the ‘productive antagonism’ between Goethe and Schiller is very interesting. I am a little tempted to get sidetracked with Goethe for awhile but I am going to resist as I really want to get to Heidegger and Merleau-Ponty (after I finish Kant’s CPR, Fichte, Schelling and Hegel...so if I’m lucky maybe I can start focusing on Goethe before I turn 70! ;)
I think it's fair to hold off on Goethe, especially if you plan to study German - the more you know when you take him on, the more likely you are to have a good experience, I think.FWIW I'd suggest focusing on Heidegger's Being and Time. It was a key book in my personal development, and for me, it contains most of what I've found useful in his philosophy.
Barnaby wrote: "I think it's fair to hold off on Goethe, especially if you plan to study German - the more you know when you take him on, the more likely you are to have a good experience, I think.FWIW I'd sugge..."
Yes, perhaps I’ll slowly work on my German and gradually, occasionally sneak a bit of Goethe in along the way...that’s my plan also for reading Proust and learning French :)

