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The problem is that a Hilbert-style axiomatic system,
precisely in its purely formal-logical, essentially uninterpreted character, is deliberately and self-consciously divorced from all contact with reality: Implicit definition, by contrast [with concrete or ostensive definition], never stands in community or connection with reality, it denies this intentionally and in principle, it remains in the realm of concepts.
— Jan 30, 2023 01:41PM
precisely in its purely formal-logical, essentially uninterpreted character, is deliberately and self-consciously divorced from all contact with reality: Implicit definition, by contrast [with concrete or ostensive definition], never stands in community or connection with reality, it denies this intentionally and in principle, it remains in the realm of concepts.
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Jonathan Hockey
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Accordingly, Carnap there adopts a strategy of "purely structural definite descriptions" that aims to individuate all objects of science solely on the basis of their formal or structural properties within the logic of Principia Mathematical and it is in this way, finally, that Carnap ultimately breaks decisively with both neo-Kantianism and Husserlian phenomenology.
— Feb 02, 2023 10:25AM
Jonathan Hockey
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Indeed, Carnap pushes such logical-conceptual objectification far beyond anything envisioned by Weyl; for Carnap (1928a/1967) explicitly asserts that the objectivity of science requires that all purely intuitive or ostensive elements must be completely and definitively expunged
— Feb 02, 2023 10:25AM
Jonathan Hockey
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Physical space, in particular, becomes a purely abstract mathematical object (the set of quadrupes of real numbers which is distinguished from other isomorphic relational structures only by the circumstance that our previously constituted epistemic subject is perceptually embedded within it - at a definite "point of view," as it were.
— Feb 02, 2023 10:24AM
Jonathan Hockey
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Now Carnap, in his later writings, soon leaves the intuitive space of his
dissertation completely behind. Indeed, Carnap (1928a/1967) adopts a
stepwise constitution of objectivity via purely conceptual or logical means that is parallel to both the neo-Kantianism of Cassirer and the symbolic construction of Weyl.
— Feb 02, 2023 10:23AM
dissertation completely behind. Indeed, Carnap (1928a/1967) adopts a
stepwise constitution of objectivity via purely conceptual or logical means that is parallel to both the neo-Kantianism of Cassirer and the symbolic construction of Weyl.
Jonathan Hockey
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That this intuitively spatial structure then necessarily lacks what Weyl
calls a determinate orientation of the purely infinitesimal metrics can only mean, for Carnap, that no such orientation inheres in physically spatial reality at all - in other words, that the full metrical structure of physical space can only be conventional.
— Feb 02, 2023 10:23AM
calls a determinate orientation of the purely infinitesimal metrics can only mean, for Carnap, that no such orientation inheres in physically spatial reality at all - in other words, that the full metrical structure of physical space can only be conventional.
Jonathan Hockey
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On Carnap's account, by contrast, the a priori infinitesimally Euclidean nature of space is conceived of as a direct reflection of the necessary structure of our spatial intuition. And it follows, for Carnap, that specifically spatial structure (as opposed to purely formal logical-mathematical structure) can only be intuitively spatial structure
— Feb 02, 2023 10:22AM
Jonathan Hockey
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For Weyl himself rejects the idea that physical metrical structure is conventionally stipulated, and instead sees in the general theory of relativity the culmination of Riemann's suggestive remarks according to which the metric of physical space is empirically determined by "binding forces" acting on the underlying metrical continuum.
— Feb 02, 2023 10:21AM
Jonathan Hockey
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It is against this backdrop that we should understand the
striking disagreement between Weyl and Carnap over the conventionality of physical metrical structure.
— Feb 02, 2023 10:21AM
striking disagreement between Weyl and Carnap over the conventionality of physical metrical structure.
Jonathan Hockey
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Weyl comes more and more to defend the view that, although our
mathematical-physical understanding of space must indeed begin with immediately intuitive acts (by which the subject locates and orients itself in the "here and now"), the outcome of this procedure is a wholly nonintuitive "symbolic" construction by which we represent the physical-spatial world by abstract mathematical symbols having no intuitive content.
— Feb 02, 2023 10:20AM
mathematical-physical understanding of space must indeed begin with immediately intuitive acts (by which the subject locates and orients itself in the "here and now"), the outcome of this procedure is a wholly nonintuitive "symbolic" construction by which we represent the physical-spatial world by abstract mathematical symbols having no intuitive content.

