[Recorded by Bea O’Leary on 14 August 2016 in her home on Gillman Street in El Cerrito, CA. The following is a direct transcription.]

So, why don’t you begin by telling me a bit about yourselves?

Well, I’m Fabian. I’m a pin cushion collector originally from Arkansas. Been in El Cerrito for about seven years now—

Eight, dear.

Eight? Is it eight? Really that long?

Yes, remember the Obamas—

Right, Malia was ten. Yes, yes you’re correct, my love. So, I’ve been here for eight years. Then I met thi...