Near the end of 2020 I had a cozy, far-ranging conversation with Mark Vander Ark for his DESPITE THE ODDS Podcast, as featured on Arianna Huffington’s Thrive Global network. We talked about grief and life after loss, healing, and the concept of ‘acceptance’ — along with a fresh appreciation for the creative fuel of discontent. Here’s a quick video clip. To listen to the full audio episode, click below and pop over to Spotify. Thanks, Mark!