Sometimes popular books are downright awful.
And sometimes, because of misdirected marketing, false expectations, authors writing outside their usual genres, kids being forced to read difficult classics in school before they're able to appreciate them, or some other reason, books hated by large numbers of people are actually good.
This is a list where you can vote for your favorite books with poor ratings. Averages below a 3.6 will count as "poor ratings."
NOTE: Books with average ratings of 3.60 or above will be removed.
See also:
Top 100 Highest Rated Books with at least 10000 Ratings (fiction or memoir, one per series)
Average Rating of 4.6 and above with at least 3000 ratings
Average Rating of 4.5 and above with at least 3000 ratings
Average Rating of 4.5 and above with at least 100 ratings
Average Rating of 4.3 and above with at least 1000 ratings
Average Rating of 4.2 and above with at least 1000 ratings
Average Rating of 4.0 and above with at least 30000 ratings
Average Rating of 4.0 and above with at least 1000 ratings
Average Rating of 4.0 and above, 100 to 999 ratings, and published before 2001
Average Rating of 3.99 and below
Average Rating below 3.6
Average Rating of 3.0 and below with at least 100 ratings
Average Rating of 4.5 and above and with 10 to 99 ratings
And sometimes, because of misdirected marketing, false expectations, authors writing outside their usual genres, kids being forced to read difficult classics in school before they're able to appreciate them, or some other reason, books hated by large numbers of people are actually good.
This is a list where you can vote for your favorite books with poor ratings. Averages below a 3.6 will count as "poor ratings."
NOTE: Books with average ratings of 3.60 or above will be removed.
See also:
Top 100 Highest Rated Books with at least 10000 Ratings (fiction or memoir, one per series)
Average Rating of 4.6 and above with at least 3000 ratings
Average Rating of 4.5 and above with at least 3000 ratings
Average Rating of 4.5 and above with at least 100 ratings
Average Rating of 4.3 and above with at least 1000 ratings
Average Rating of 4.2 and above with at least 1000 ratings
Average Rating of 4.0 and above with at least 30000 ratings
Average Rating of 4.0 and above with at least 1000 ratings
Average Rating of 4.0 and above, 100 to 999 ratings, and published before 2001
Average Rating of 3.99 and below
Average Rating below 3.6
Average Rating of 3.0 and below with at least 100 ratings
Average Rating of 4.5 and above and with 10 to 99 ratings
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260 voters ·
list created August 26th, 2012
by Emma Deplores Goodreads Censorship (votes) .
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Aug 28, 2012 02:28AM
Great idea for a list, though there already is one with almost the exact same parameters, see "Books That Deserve a Higher Rating (Avg Rating < 3.7)" (http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/13...) ...
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Good to know--I poked around a bit before making this list but didn't see that one. I'm going to leave this stand though; about half the books on that one are rated between 3.6 and 3.7, so the apparently small difference in parameters actually has a big impact.
Wow -- I saw there wasn't a complete overlap, of course, but didn't realize it actually made so much of a difference!
Guilty ... I gave several of those books a low rating too. What a great idea, though, and you're so right!
Deleted for being 3.60 or above:Antony and Cleopatra by William Shakespeare (3.60)
The 19th Wife by David Ebershoff (3.60)
Hive (Hive, #1) by Tim Curran (3.66)
Ufo's From Behind The Iron Curtain by Ion Hobana (3.62)
History of the Necronomicon by H.P. Lovecraft (3.71)
Changeling the Dreaming by Mark Rein-Hagen (3.67)
Rob Roy by Walter Scott (3.60)
The Trial (Illustrated Classics): A Graphic Novel by David Zane Mairowitz (3.96)
That middle 3 area is where most books seem to cluster. Quite a few of the ones I added were 3.5+, and i've only ever read 15 books rated under 3.3, and NONE rated at under 3. Need to make an opposite list - highly rated books (say, 4.4+ that don't deserve it...)
It seems to me (from spending too much time on Goodreads) that generally well-received books tend to have an average rating in the 3.7-4.1 range. Over 4.1 and the book is beloved by its readers, and quite possibly overrated.* Below 3.5 and there's definitely a problem, either with the book or with the readers. Between 3.5 and 3.7 is a gray area where opinions are mixed (this is where widely loathed bestsellers like Twilight, Eragon and Fifty Shades fall). So I decided to split that down the middle for the list, but it makes sense that the best-liked books in that range will be the ones between 3.5 and 3.6.I have actually read two books with averages below a 3--neither is much good, although the 2.76-er I didn't find quite that awful. But it looks like publishers must do a better job than I give them credit for--just about anything they put out finds some fans, or we'd see a lot more 1s and 2s.
* @Tamara: I went to vote on your 4.4+ list, and then realized I'd only read a few books with such high averages and didn't really dislike any of them. Although I do think The Hunger Games is overrated.
Yeah, I think I might lower it a bit. I could only turn up 3 books, and I feel rather bad about tossing poor Harry Potter on there (only those slightly wonky later ones!) I really just made it for for Way of Kings, which is the single most highly rated book i've ever read, apparently, which drives me nuts, (it beats all of GRRM, Abercrombie, Abrahams, etc, not to mention every other author I HAVE EVER READ.) NUTS!
I don't understand the Way of Kings thing at all either--from what I've heard about it and from reading other Sanderson books, I imagine it's okay (although not something I intend to read), but not by any stretch something that should be rated higher than literally every book I have ever read!But then, I don't understand a lot of the really high ratings. It makes sense for sequels where there's a lot of selection bias in who even bothers to read the books, but something like Game of Thrones will always be niche to me--I think it's an excellent piece of epic fantasy, but have plenty of friends on GR and in real life who either disliked it, or considered it entertaining but not particularly well-written. And somehow it's one of the highest-rated books I've read.
Removed for having a rating of 3.60+:The Mystery of Edwin Drood - 3.60
The Last of Her Kind - 3.60
A Covert Agenda - 3.80
The Berlin-Baghdad Express: The Ottoman Empire and Germany's Bid for World Power - 3.64
Terminal World - 3.60
The Priest They Called Him: The Life and Legacy of William Burroughs - 3.60
Hay Fever - 3.60
Not a single one of these is rated poorly. In fact, every single one of these books is either a classic; held in high regards by scholars; or a super-popular book in the fantasy genre, which is slowly growing to be come a vastly popular genre. So, I can't help but voice confusion. And not to mention each of them has at least an average of 3.5 stars here on Goodreads. So I have no idea who made this list or why.
Well, I created the list, as you can see at the bottom, for the reasons in the list description. Also, you know, because this is Listopia and it's fun to create lists and see how people vote on them. Not everything here is a classic or fantasy (though I'm not sure why that matters?), but the way Listopia works is that if enough people vote on a list, the most popular items on it will rise to the top. As for the cut-off, when I see a book rated below around 3.6, that's when I start to wonder what the problem is.
As for "who made it": Emma created it, and 98 of us (so far) have voted on it. We are who have made it. Anyone who chooses to add to it can do so, and help make it.
Susanna's right, there are now 100 people who've made the list, and anybody who thinks different books should be on it, can and should vote for them.As for the 3.6, it's a bit arbitrary, and I talked about why in comment #7 above. Basically, yeah, the way Goodreads averages go, below 3.6 tells me there's an unusual amount of dislike for the book. Right now, out of 539 books on my "read" shelf, only 55 have averages of 3.59 or below. If we were to go for truly low ratings, there wouldn't be much to vote for: I currently only have 4 books with averages below 3.0, and didn't particularly like any of them.
Deleted for having a rating of 3.60+:Lord of the Flies
Cleopatra: A Life
Coriolanus
Black Skies : an Inspector Erlendur Novel
The Watchers
Two Plays: juno and the Paycock, The Shadow of A Gunman
Removed for having a rating higher than 3.60:Learning to Kiss in the Snow - by D.B. Tarpley - 4.24 avg rating — 17 ratings
Lick the Razor - by D.B. Tarpley - 3.79 avg rating — 29 ratings
The Night's Night - by D.B. Tarpley - 4.20 avg rating — 5 ratings
Leviathan - by Thomas Hobbes - 3.62 avg rating — 20,881 ratings
The History of Witchcraft and Demonology by Montague Summers - 3.62 277
Promises to Keep: African-Americans and the Constitutional Order, 1776 to the Present by Donald G. Nieman - 3.64 avg rating — 11 ratings
"NOTE: Books with average ratings of 3.60 or above will be removed."Removed for having a rating of exactly 3.60:
Three Bags Full by Leonie Swann - 3.60 avg rating — 6,433 ratings
Osman's Dream: The History of the Ottoman Empire - by Caroline Finkel - 3.60 avg rating — 411 ratings
Darwin for Beginners by Jonathan Miller - 3.60 avg rating — 205 ratings
In the Forest - by Edna O'Brien - 3.60 avg rating — 810 ratings
Raffles: The Amateur Cracksman (A.J. Raffles, The Gentleman Thief #1) - by E.W. Hornung - 3.60 avg rating — 990 ratings
Removed for having an avg. rating of 3.6:The Werewolf of Paris
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
as per: '3.60 or above will be removed.'
Removed for having a too high rating:
Things Fall Apart (The African Trilogy, #1)
by Chinua Achebe
3.60 avg rating — 200,592 ratings
Nickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America
by Barbara Ehrenreich
3.60 avg rating — 155,406 ratings
A Son of the Circus
by John Irving (Goodreads Author)
3.60 avg rating — 16,024 ratings
Hunter's Run
by George R.R. Martin
3.60 avg rating — 2,224 ratings
Beauty Queens
by Libba Bray (Goodreads Author)
3.60 avg rating — 39,889 ratings
The Quiet War (The Quiet War #1)
by Paul McAuley (Goodreads Author)
3.60 avg rating — 1,687 ratings
Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother
by Amy Chua
3.60 avg rating — 37,449 ratings
The Europeans
by Henry James
3.60 avg rating — 2,989 ratings
Fallen Angels
by Noël Coward
3.64 avg rating — 76 ratings
Removed due to ratings > 3.60Gold Boy, Emerald Girl
Evenfall
By Sword and Fire
Savages and Civilization
Congratulations to #92 Driven, #133 Obasan, #152 All Cheeses Great and Small, and #189 Esther's Inheritance. They have risen above 3.60 and were deleted.
Removed The Crucible, The Communist Manifesto, Spook: Science Tackles the Afterlife, The Forest of Hands and Teeth, The Big Kahuna, Port Mortuary, Земля без радости, Billingsgate Shoal, The Interpretation of Murder, 2061: Odyssey Three, The Mill River Recluse, Death of Wolverine, No Fixed Address, Finding God in It's A Wonderful Life, Race-Baiting In America: How the Left Use Race as a Means to Keep Power, Drive the Narrative, & Tear This Country Apart, Deerbrook, The Ruins, I Still Dream About You, A Curse Dark as Gold, The Shadow of Oz, Labyrinth, Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason, The Midwife of Venice, England, Bloody England: An Expatriate's Return, Inside of a Dog: What Dogs See, Smell, and Know, The Good Daughters, Death in a Tenured Position, Run, Await Your Reply, The Pigman, All the Birds in the Sky, Red Tide, The Witch Elm
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