The Debate Club discussion

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NO. If it was do you really think anyone would choose it?! I mean no one WANTS to be hated and discriminated and told they're going to hell but we ARE.

to be honest, i'm not sure
I think you were born with it, or a subconscious reaction, but it's not a conscious choice that you can make!!

Yes, being QUEER is a choice. Queer is a political movement, that you choose to join

You can be gay without being queer. You can be gay, and conservative (like the good majority of gay men 😭😭😭😭) lol

Queer is a choice. Gay is just who you're attracted to and has nothing to do with politics, unless you choose to make it so, which is a choice so queer

Mini, queer is a not a political movement i thought, its just the opposite of being straight.
Definition:
denoting or relating to a sexual or gender identity that does not correspond to established ideas of sexuality and gender, especially heterosexual norms:

https://www.ese-hormones.org/media/ei...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles...

"This feels like a good place to quickly skim over trans scientific research. I
say skim not because I want to rush over it (I did a PhD: I love a good bit of
science), but because, as trans people, we don’t need to rely on peerreviewed papers to know who we are. However, it can sometimes be
reassuring to know you’re not alone or ‘weird’ for feeling how you feel.
Many papers support that socially and medically transitioning reduces
dysphoria and increases the wellbeing of trans people.fn1 Some papers
strongly support a biological basis of gender identityfn2 and suggest that
being trans is a result of hormone exposures when you’re developing in the
womb.fn3 Some scientific research has found similarities in the brain
structures of trans women and cis women.fn4 Not to toot my own horn, but
my own research supports this pattern too, where trans men’s arousal
patterns were more similar to what you’d see from cis men rather than cis
women.fn5 That’s all pretty cool if you ask me! But again, scientific papers
aren’t the golden nugget you need to fully understand who you are (sorry).
It’s more of an internal research process that you have to carry out for that
one." - Jamie Raines, The T in LGBT

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25667... - Fn1

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21334... - Fn2

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10843... - Fn3

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33635... - Fn5

No mini is right queer is the lgbt political activist.

Like there are trans who are not queer and just want to be left alone.

In the same way it is possible to be an lgbt ally and be queer while being straight

Austin wrote: "No mini is right queer is the lgbt political activist.

Like there are trans who are not queer and just want to be left alone."



No it isn’t 😭

Being queer means: individuals whose sexual orientation or gender identity falls outside of what is considered "straight" and "cisgender" (matching their assigned sex at birth).

its not a political movement it is a term used for people under the lgbtq+ umbrella

Like in college ive met people who are queer and straight. They are lgbt allies

Queer is a broad political term, thats where it originates and thats the original defntion
Ofc, people interpret words differently like skme people think a woman is different to what others think a wkman is

Also LGBTQ+ is a political term, lol

It is possible to divorce your sexual identity from politics, yes, but people who call themselves queer are using a political term

Yes but queer has been reclaimed to be a political term

Look i didnt go into their gender identity. They had a girlfriend and identified as straight and queer. I mean i think his girlfriend is Bi?

Austin wrote: "Yes but queer has been reclaimed to be a political term"

by who? 😭😭 people are trying to make it political, when in reality the definition is far from political. it's a term used for people under the lgbtq+ umbrella

Yes and the lgbt is a political group

Austin wrote: "Yes but queer has been reclaimed to be a political term"

It can be, but I don't really understand how it can be political because it isn't related to really any types of politics. I may be wrong, but it probably isn't a political term. It just refers to a group of people, not government.

Look mini knows gay conservatives. They are Gay not queer and they are against queers.

im sorry but this topic is really stupid o,o. wherever you research its going to say something on the lines that Being queer means: individuals whose sexual orientation or gender identity falls outside of what is considered "straight" and "cisgender" (matching their assigned sex at birth).

Austin wrote: "Yes and the lgbt is a political group"

bro literally how?? it isn't relating to politics at all, at least to my knowledge

Austin wrote: "Look mini knows gay conservatives. They are Gay not queer and they are against queers."

how is that possible?

Griffin wrote: "Your making shit up

QUEER IS JUST A WAY TO IDENTIFY NOT A POLITICAL STATEMENT"

I agree < / 3

Griffin wrote: "Your making shit up

QUEER IS JUST A WAY TO IDENTIFY NOT A POLITICAL STATEMENT"

THANK YOU
what are we supposed to identify as if lgbtq+ AND queer are both political?? why does it even have to be political in the first place

I would like some sources please, on how being queer is political, because it is not and we have proven that several times now.
People whom we cant verify with misunderstanding and calling themselves gay not queer is not a source.

Austin is very wesley-like (my stepdad)

Austin wrote: "Look mini knows gay conservatives. They are Gay not queer and they are against queers."

genuinely how is that possible? i don't think they know the definition of queer lol, because they are literally against themselves

❤¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪《Tessie》♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸❤ wrote: "Austin wrote: "Look mini knows gay conservatives. They are Gay not queer and they are against queers."

how is that possible?"

Lmao look up gay cinseratives

This is so funny

Well no, gay cinservatives as in.
Most of my gay friends who are male are conservatices
The woman whos running the afd "far right" party in germany is a lesbian

Logar wrote: "This is so funny"

It kind of is--

Sizebale portion politically active men in reform uk, the "far right" uk party are gay men

Most of the political conservative cimmentators i listen to
Are gay men

Polotocs is not about gov

MidnightButterfly wrote: "Well no, gay cinservatives as in.
Most of my gay friends who are male are conservatices
The woman whos running the afd "far right" party in germany is a lesbian"

(you're spelling conservative wrong, no offense)

Why are people spelling words wrong :(

You can be queer and conservative i think... but like... you cant be gay and not queer.

(also correct me if i'm wrong and spelling the word wrong lol)

olivia ౨ৎ wrote: "MidnightButterfly wrote: "Well no, gay cinservatives as in.
Most of my gay friends who are male are conservatices
The woman whos running the afd "far right" party in germany is a lesbian"

(you're..."

she's spelling a lot wrong lol

Lol i spell a lot wrong my typing isnt great because i have poor hand eye coordination its a disability of some kind idk

Logar wrote: "This is so funny"

it kinda is

rainy ୨ৎ {hiatus} wrote: "olivia ౨ৎ wrote: "MidnightButterfly wrote: "Well no, gay cinservatives as in.
Most of my gay friends who are male are conservatices
The woman whos running the afd "far right" party in germany is a..."

yes..

❤¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪《Tessie》♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸❤ wrote: "You can be queer and conservative i think... but like... you cant be gay and not queer."

Yeah…

MidnightButterfly wrote: "Lol i spell a lot wrong my typing isnt great because i have poor hand eye coordination its a disability of some kind idk"

huh do you know what the disability is called?

❤¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪《Tessie》♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸❤ wrote: "You can be queer and conservative i think... but like... you cant be gay and not queer."

Well, no, a lot of gay people are not queer. A lot. Queer means a member of the lgbtq+ community. Many find the community too politicised, so are not queer. They are just gay. They like men or whatever and dint think it has anything to do with being in a collective pressure group

OKAY GUYS QUEER IS NOT A POLITICAL TERM!!

MidnightButterfly wrote: "❤¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪《Tessie》♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸❤ wrote: "You can be queer and conservative i think... but like... you cant be gay and not queer."

Well, no, a lot of gay people are not queer. A lot. Queer means a me..."

A gay person is also part of the lgbtq community, hence the G in lgbtq...
where did you learn this im filing a complaint lmfao because this si so inaccurate

olivia ౨ৎ wrote: "OKAY GUYS QUEER IS NOT A POLITICAL TERM!!"

exactlyyy just look up the definition

rainy ୨ৎ {hiatus} wrote: "olivia ౨ৎ wrote: "OKAY GUYS QUEER IS NOT A POLITICAL TERM!!"

exactlyyy just look up the definition"

yes! :3

MidnightButterfly wrote: "❤¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪《Tessie》♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸❤ wrote: "You can be queer and conservative i think... but like... you cant be gay and not queer."

Well, no, a lot of gay people are not queer. A lot. Queer means a me..."

Collective pressure group lmfao im sorry they are accepting and encourage people to be true to themselves...