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Clockwork Angel (The Infernal Devices, #1)
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message 1: by Emily V, Happy Hunger Games and may the odds be EVER in your favour! (new) - rated it 5 stars

Emily V (xemilyx) | 214 comments Mod
Who loves Jem?


Stephanie (Bookfever) (bookfever) Me! Even though I am team Will, it doesn't mean I don't love Jem, because I do. Gotta love musicians!


Jennifer (bookwormjenn) | 50 comments Jem is my long lost way before my time love.


Jennifer (bookwormjenn) | 50 comments I know right? He can't die! Right Emily?


Stephanie (Bookfever) (bookfever) I will cry if he dies. Seriously.


Jennifer (bookwormjenn) | 50 comments I'll die if he dies probably. Actually I'll probably cry my eyes out and then die. :(


Stephanie (Bookfever) (bookfever) We'll all die with you.


Jennifer (bookwormjenn) | 50 comments NO! :(


Stephanie (Bookfever) (bookfever) What would you think about a book where the main character is a troll?


Jennifer (bookwormjenn) | 50 comments Is he supposed to be a hot troll? The word troll is a total turnoff for sure though.


Stephanie (Bookfever) (bookfever) So far I've come across a girl troll and a boy troll and they're both attractive, but it's weird to read about. :P


Jennifer (bookwormjenn) | 50 comments What in the world are you reading?


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saga (iyagi) I need to know too.


Stephanie (Bookfever) (bookfever) Switched by Amanda Hocking xD Christina is reading it too.


Jennifer (bookwormjenn) | 50 comments Odd is all I can say about a troll book.


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saga (iyagi) Trolls doesn't scream hotness, that's for sure!


Stephanie (Bookfever) (bookfever) They might as well be faeries actually since Wendy is a changeling. xD but no she's a troll.


message 19: by Emily V, Happy Hunger Games and may the odds be EVER in your favour! (new) - rated it 5 stars

Emily V (xemilyx) | 214 comments Mod
Woah I'm coming into this conversation at a weird time. Trolls? Ok then.


Stephanie (Bookfever) (bookfever) Sorry xD we got distracted xD Let's go back to Jemmy!


Karina Kantas I think she made a big mistake agreeing to marry Jem. She's more suited to Will.

Just the idea of having those two frightening over you is enough to make your knees weak. Cassandra did such a great job making the reader fall in love with both of them.


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I do! I just love Will more.


Daisy | 180 comments Karina - LadyHawk wrote: "I think she made a big mistake agreeing to marry Jem. She's more suited to Will.

Just the idea of having those two frightening over you is enough to make your knees weak. Cassandra did such a gre..."


I think she would be better with Will too. I think that they just have more in common. I mean, he says to her everything that she has ever imagined the guy of her dreams saying to her. But she couldn't have said no to Jem because she loves Will, she loves Jem too and she was convinced that Will practically hated her.

I didn't like swicthed. I couldn't get through the first 20 or so pages.


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Karina - LadyHawk wrote: "I think she made a big mistake agreeing to marry Jem. She's more suited to Will.

Just the idea of having those two frightening over you is enough to make your knees weak. Cassandra did such a gre..."


Yeah, but she thought that Will hated her! The ending was sooooooooo heartbreaking!!!! The scene in the drawing room....... So sad!!!!!!!! I cried for days!


Courtney | 11 comments Karina wrote: "I think she made a big mistake agreeing to marry Jem. She's more suited to Will.

Just the idea of having those two frightening over you is enough to make your knees weak. Cassandra did such a gre..."



I KNOW!!!
Jem is a great guy, but obviously she is really in love with Will, so this can't end well for her and Jem. Her and Will are so much better suited for each other! They've loved each other like right from the start!
so I was mad at her for saying yes to Jem.


Courtney | 11 comments I like Jem and all, but I was really disappointed that she said yes to his marriage proposal, where she is so much better suited for Will and isn't in love with Jem except for in a brotherly way .
I know she feels guilty for not loving him in the same way as he loves her, and that he is sick which made her say yes.. but I can't see it ending well for her and Jem.
If anything, this will just hurt him even more, knowing that she never actually wanted to marry him.
She is clearly meant for Will .


Daisy | 180 comments *there are spoilers in the tumblr post if you haven't read clockwork prince*

I just have to ask, what makes you guys think that Tessa is not in love with Jem? She really is. Cassandra Clare herself has it said that she is many times on her tumblr and twitter I am sure.
Here is a post where she says it: http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post...
Sorry, I don't mean to come across as rude if I do. I just want to know what makes you say it, and show you that she does love him.
If you were in Tessa's situation and you thought you were in love with a guy that had done nothing but be horrible and convince you that he hates you, and then another guy that you were in love with also proposed to you, would you say no to wait for the complete arse hole? We know that Will has reasons, Tessa may suspect it, but she doesn't know for sure. So why should she waste her time on him. And I am not saying this because I am Team Jem, I am firmly Team Will.


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i love Jem... for me, but not for Tessa. I think he is amazing and i don't want him to get hurt by Tessa but i think that she will end up with Will as she should.

he is so great and i prefer him compared to Will. *sighs* So sweet and funny, and really empathetic. He can't die! There must be a cure.


Sophie (nitaro48) I totally agree with bookowl, about everything. That is totally how I felt about Jem when I was reading the books. I just want the next one to come out so that I know he'll be okay.


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BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MARCH!!!! *sits down and crys until March*


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aaaw... I know sister! We can only wait in good hope.


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What if the world ends???? *drowns in tears*


Daisy | 180 comments Someone asked her if the world ended if she would post who Tessa chooses so that we can all die happy. She totally said she would. I'm going to try and find it :P
It took me ages, but I finally found it! :D
http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post...

Awesomeness :D


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Haha TOTALLY!!!


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I will go on tumblr the moment the world ends!!!!


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Elyse Schramm | 24 comments I absolutely love Jem, although I love Will too. I think Tessa is truly in love with the both of them, although it's a different love. Will is the tough guy you fall head over heels in love with because he reminds you of the knight or shadowhunter in this case who slayed the dragon and saved the princess. He's the one you're going to have a life full of adventure and some danger with. Jem on the other hand is the shining sort (literally ^_^) he's romantic, and considerate. The type you settle down with and start a family with. 2 very very different boys.


Daisy | 180 comments Josie Ona,♥ Loves Will H and Gale♥ wrote: "I will go on tumblr the moment the world ends!!!!"

So will I!! Haha. I just love that someone asked her that :P


Daisy | 180 comments @Elyse I totally agree. I think she loves both of them, but in different ways. Even though I agree Will is totally that person can't you just imagine him totally ready to settle down with Tessa and start a family! <3

This is exactly the reason that I think she should choose Will, she belongs with Will:

"Tessa had begun to tremble. This is what she had always wanted someone to say. What she had always, in the darkest corner of her heart, wanted Will to say. Will, the boy who loved the same books she did, the same poetry she did, who made her laugh even when she was furious. And here he was standing in front of her, telling her he loved the words of her heart, the shape of her soul. Telling her something she had never imagined anyone would ever tell her. Telling her something she would never be told again, not in this way. And not by him.
And it did not matter.
"It's too late", she said."
- Cassandra Clare (Clockwork Prince)


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Stop it!! Your gonna make me cry!!


Daisy | 180 comments I cried so much when I first read it! But strangely when I read it for the second time I didn't cry.

(view spoiler)

I am always unsure whether or not to spoiler tag stuff on some of these discussions :/


Kasey Jem is so sweet. I want him to get the girl in the end, but I know its going to be Will.


Daisy | 180 comments What makes you so sure that she is going to choose Will? If she (view spoiler), and then Will won't be able to be with her because she broke Jem's heart. If Jem dies, Will won't be able to be with her because she only chose him after her first choice died. I really think that Tessa is the kind of woman that would choose neither of them. So that is also a possibility.


Devin (devinrose) As much as I love Jem, and I want Tessa to choose him, you can tell its going to be Will. But apparently some people think that maybe Jem becomes Brother Zachariah..... That would definitely be interesting


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