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Andre
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These names and one is even THE Esmeralda... how come she is always referenced as a gypsy but not Quasimodo?
— Oct 13, 2018 02:04AM
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Andre
is on page 60 of 72
Come on, she is a smuggler from Amsterdam and not a hooker. So why is she Dressed like that?
— Oct 13, 2018 02:00AM
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Andre
is on page 57 of 72
Reading about this gypsy seer ravnos and How she, unlike georgio, Has a compulsion to flaunt gaje rules reminds me of the racist theories regarding pure and mixed gypsies. In fact the entire book is like that.
— Oct 13, 2018 01:40AM
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Andre
is on page 55 of 72
A ravnos based on a special effects creator instead of criminals?
— Oct 13, 2018 01:36AM
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Andre
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Is the book saying the rom are doing the curse or is it the undead Ravnos? Because if the latter it should make up its mind as to whether Ravnos have magic of that kind or not.
— Oct 12, 2018 09:18AM
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Andre
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the "justifications" given for the criminal nature of the phralmulo Ravnos (who are really racist against the georgio Ravnos) sounds like the stereotype of a racist black American gangster trying to defend his own criminality. And I mean it, that is exactly how it sounds.
— Oct 12, 2018 03:56AM
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Andre
is on page 37 of 72
This has gotten so ridiculous that they now (apart from copying Yoors again) claim that what the Ravnos do is only stealing to the gaje and not the Rom. They claim Rom consider something stealing only when it is done out of greed (the examples come from Yoors' book) and Ravnos like them only value their freedom, to exist how they always have and value no posession, property or status in government and business. BS!!
— Oct 12, 2018 01:06AM
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Andre
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Imagine: they write about war and genocide and it clashes so much with history and their own established rules that it is just hilarious what you read here. Whoever wrote that either did not care or had no idea about those times and this world's own rules, e.g. the deathsquads did not ignore gypsies at first, the entire german army did not hunt gypsies and KZ-inmates would make very bad food sources for vampires.
— Oct 11, 2018 10:52AM
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Andre
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No idea what is more idiotic, the fact that they state that the power to create illusions was taught by a gypsy girl who only had the power of clairvoyance or the stupid story of Ennoia's betrayal where Ennoia apparently did not even consider said girl's powers and so of course her betrayal would fail. Why she betrayed Ravnos? She is a child of lillith and so not accustomed to follow any man. That is stupid.
— Oct 11, 2018 03:54AM
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Andre
is on page 16 of 72
Not only did these "Romani" willingly accept a stranger into their midsts who admits to be a murderer and to be Caine (and the first one openly) but now their blood even has power.
But wait, if this is Caine and he embraced Ravnos, wouldn't that mean that Ravnos belongs to the second generation and therefore we have a canon break here?
— Oct 11, 2018 03:05AM
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But wait, if this is Caine and he embraced Ravnos, wouldn't that mean that Ravnos belongs to the second generation and therefore we have a canon break here?
Andre
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Oh boy, now we have egyptian werewolves with the gypsies and now I think that stranger is Caine, this is getting more and more hilarious.
— Oct 11, 2018 02:09AM
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Andre
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My prediction: I will either find this totally annoying, or I will laugh my ass off at the ridiculousness of it all. Not only am I convinced (after reading this stuff about uncurropted romani language) that this is heavily based on Jan Yoors, but all this talk about Ravnos being persecuted (chapter 2 is literally called "the persecuted") even though the narrator himself stated that most of what he knows are lies.
— Oct 10, 2018 11:06PM
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Andre
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Yep, someone copied Jan Yoors. Just made it darker. And come on, they had to copy the picture of that Jewish boy with his raised hands?
— Oct 10, 2018 02:09PM
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Andre
is on page 7 of 72
the narrator first met gypsies as a child in Belgium? Did someone copy from Jan Yoors.
— Oct 10, 2018 02:06PM
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Andre
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For this reason, certain liberties have been taken in the presentation of these enigmatic people, including the continuation of some of these misconceptions.
Translation: We wanted to use some stereotypes.
If you do that, at least admit it.
— Oct 10, 2018 02:01PM
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Translation: We wanted to use some stereotypes.
If you do that, at least admit it.

