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Isaac Chan
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Note 1/2:
I read in the general introduction that Cicero, when he just made consul in 63 BC, in the 4 De Lege Agraria speeches (only 3 are extant), managed to successfully persuade the people against a land reform bill (land redistribution) proposed by Publius Servilius Rullus.
So they were already talking about land reform in ancient Rome. Fascinating. I have many jumbled thoughts about land reform - like, what ...
— Apr 13, 2026 06:40AM
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I read in the general introduction that Cicero, when he just made consul in 63 BC, in the 4 De Lege Agraria speeches (only 3 are extant), managed to successfully persuade the people against a land reform bill (land redistribution) proposed by Publius Servilius Rullus.
So they were already talking about land reform in ancient Rome. Fascinating. I have many jumbled thoughts about land reform - like, what ...
Isaac Chan
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Some scholars use the term 'political' as synonymous with 'deliberative', so I note that although all the speeches in my edition are political in the normal sense of the word, only 4 are deliberative.
The companion volume, 'Defense speeches', contains 5 forensic speeches.
— Apr 12, 2026 12:20AM
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Some scholars use the term 'political' as synonymous with 'deliberative', so I note that although all the speeches in my edition are political in the normal sense of the word, only 4 are deliberative.
The companion volume, 'Defense speeches', contains 5 forensic speeches.
Isaac Chan
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level in Cicero's time.
So my copy of 'Political speeches' contains 2 forensic speeches, 4 deliberative speeches, and 3 epideictic speeches.
In Catilinam I may count as epideictic, and II - IV may count as deliberative.
— Apr 12, 2026 12:20AM
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level in Cicero's time.
So my copy of 'Political speeches' contains 2 forensic speeches, 4 deliberative speeches, and 3 epideictic speeches.
In Catilinam I may count as epideictic, and II - IV may count as deliberative.
Isaac Chan
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pg xii
Note 1/3:
Some fascinating context: Cicero was a master of the 2 main types of oratory, 'forensic' (the oratory of the forum, i.e. of the law courts, also known as 'judicial') and 'deliberative' (the oratory of the political assemblies).
A 3rd type, 'epideictic' (of display, or of praise and blame, so D.H. Berry says more technically, 'panegyric' or 'invective') was less important at the higher political...
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Note 1/3:
Some fascinating context: Cicero was a master of the 2 main types of oratory, 'forensic' (the oratory of the forum, i.e. of the law courts, also known as 'judicial') and 'deliberative' (the oratory of the political assemblies).
A 3rd type, 'epideictic' (of display, or of praise and blame, so D.H. Berry says more technically, 'panegyric' or 'invective') was less important at the higher political...
sir (taylor's version)
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alla fine catilina ha ragione, anche io avrei voluto far esplodere cicerone
— Nov 20, 2025 01:53PM
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sir (taylor's version)
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sono all’ultima catilinaria, quando il bacio tra gli enemies to lovers?
— Nov 20, 2025 01:52PM
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