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The popular notion that the Reformers were anti-tradition is a gross mischaracterization. "No less than Rome, the Reformers stood for a tradition and were adamant they stood within the catholic tradition. Their conflict with the papacy was not a choice between Scripture and tradition, but a conflict between their view of tradition and the papacy’s view of tradition."
— Mar 30, 2026 06:43PM
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A long, long chapter on Luther beginning with his early education and ending with the Diet of Worms.
Barrett is doing well defending his main thesis: Luther never wanted to leave Rome. He wanted to REFORM it from the crazy levels of corruption it had reached in his day.
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Barrett is doing well defending his main thesis: Luther never wanted to leave Rome. He wanted to REFORM it from the crazy levels of corruption it had reached in his day.
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"Kristeller’s definition of humanism captures its essence: a return to classical antiquity with full confidence that its ancient perspective contained the seeds by which present society could be reborn."
"If classical antiquity contained the remedy, then dedication to the retrieval of classical sources—Greek and Roman—was essential. Ad fontes—back to the source—became the theme song of Renaissance humanism."
— Mar 28, 2026 10:35AM
"If classical antiquity contained the remedy, then dedication to the retrieval of classical sources—Greek and Roman—was essential. Ad fontes—back to the source—became the theme song of Renaissance humanism."
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Comparing and coordinating the theologies of Duns Scotus, Ockham, and Biel, Barrett traces the decay of scholasticism that Luther reacted so strongly against.
— Mar 27, 2026 09:16AM
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And now it's time for a brief section with Barrett extolling the wonders of Platonism...
This is where I get skeptical of "The Great Tradition."
— Mar 26, 2026 07:35AM
This is where I get skeptical of "The Great Tradition."
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A long, long chapter on Thomas Aquinas and the Reformers' reaction to and use of his Summa.
I expected no less from Barrett going into the book.
He takes great pains to separate Aquinas from later, "via moderna" Scholastics (e.g., Occam, Scotus), to show how the Reformers were Thomas' heirs (some more aware of this than others) even as they critiqued comtemporary Scholasticism itself, and I think Barrett succeeds.
— Mar 24, 2026 10:26AM
I expected no less from Barrett going into the book.
He takes great pains to separate Aquinas from later, "via moderna" Scholastics (e.g., Occam, Scotus), to show how the Reformers were Thomas' heirs (some more aware of this than others) even as they critiqued comtemporary Scholasticism itself, and I think Barrett succeeds.
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"I do not seek to understand so that I may believe; but I believe so that I may understand. For I believe this also, that unless I believe, I shall not understand." - Anselm
Chapter 3 traces the rise of the Scholastics, mostly by chronicling the life, works, and method of Anselm to show how indebted to him the Reformers were.
The importance of Lombard's "Sentences" in training the Reformers is highlighted as well.
— Mar 16, 2026 02:51AM
Chapter 3 traces the rise of the Scholastics, mostly by chronicling the life, works, and method of Anselm to show how indebted to him the Reformers were.
The importance of Lombard's "Sentences" in training the Reformers is highlighted as well.
Andrew Meredith
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The second chapter traces the rise of both medieval monasticism and mysticism and delineates the Reformation's continuities and discontinuities with the eclectic movements.
— Mar 15, 2026 07:40AM
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"If the Reformers’ own perception is considered, then the story of the Reformation is not a story of a rebellious departure from the church catholic but a story of renewal."
— Mar 13, 2026 02:28AM
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Another rising view was Papal Infallibility. This view was first explicitly taught by the Franciscan monk Pietro Olivi in the late 13th century (not coincidently after the Pope made a ruling Olivi agreed with on the Franciscan poverty controversy that raged at the time). While papal infallibility might appear at first blush to increase a pope’s power, the original intent (and the long view of history) tells a different story: papal infallibility restricts the liberality of future pontiffs and keeps them accountable to their catholic heritage. "Olivi himself formulated the doctrine to diminish the capacity of future occupants of the Roman see to injure the church so he insisted on the infallibility—and consequent irreformability—of doctrinal decisions already established by preceding popes." Olivi wanted to cement his victory.
Notably, the duplicitous motive behind Olivi's novel teaching was widely known (including by the disapproving Pope himself), and upon his death, his writings were burned and his view denounced. Even 50 years after his death, one cannot find a theologian that believed the Pope could not err. When the doctrine eventually resurfaced, it was in entirely different circumstances.
Papal inerrancy may have been questioned, but since 1215, Papal supremacy was not. That year Pope Innocent had elevated his office above Vicar of Peter and declared himself Vicar of Christ. The claim was clear. All of Christendom, kingdoms and peoples, must obey him. This claim, forged in political conflict, led to even more political conflict.
The Roman Church was conquered by France, and then forcefully relocated to Avignon for 68 years, where it became "the handmaid of the French goverment." When, a few decades into this corrupt "Avignon Captivity," Pope John XXII tried to undo certain actions of previous popes, "Papal Inerrancy" was resurrected en masse by his opponents to stop him.
It was within this setting that Ockham first put forth Tradition 2 clearly as it is defined above. (Yet, he had his own radical, and perhaps contradictory take on it.) It would be Guido Terreni who would win it's acceptance.
Even when the Papacy returned home, it only half did so. Two rival popes, one French, one Italian) quickly claimed the Vicar title for themselves and excommunicated one another.


"The sole authority of Holy Scripture is upheld as canon, or standard, of revealed truth in such a way that Scripture is not contrasted with Tradition. Scripture, it is argued, can be understood only within the Church and has been understood within the Church by the great doctors specifically committed to the task of interpretation of Scripture and especially endowed with the gift of understanding this unique source of truth. The history of obedient interpretation is the Tradition of the Church."
Tradition 2 (T2: View of Roman Church/Magisterial Authority/Two-Source Theory)
"It is argued that the Apostles did not commit everything to writing, usually on the grounds that the scriptural authors reported what Christ said and did during His lifetime but not what Christ taught His disciples in the period between the resurrection and the ascension. During these forty days an oral Tradition originated which is to be regarded as a complement to Holy Scripture, handed down to the Church of later times as a second source of revelation."
(But even within the Two-Source Theory there was a divide between where the authority lay to make decisive judgments, council or pope?)
Though one finds traces of T2 earlier than the 14th century, it was then that the view first began to be strongly adovocated (though not without strong detractors).