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It's always seemed to me that too many people focus on corruption. In systems which are inherently destructive, corruption may be the only way ordinary people can gain any relief. I'd be more interested in stories of how destructive systems were 'altered or abolish(ed)' to render them less systematically ruthless.

Valerie wrote: "It's always seemed to me that too many people focus on corruption. In systems which are inherently destructive, corruption may be the only way ordinary people can gain any relief. I'd be more int..."

Well, then you must be grateful for The Jungle...which caused Teddy Roosevelt to shout, " You mean, I've been eating rats !!?"...and the rest is historic reform.

Rdbot (Reese) wrote: "T,
I initially intended to add books about corruption, abuse of power, etc. only in the USA. Then I noticed that you had listed works set in other countries. So I didn't limit my choices to books ..."

MY INITIAL inspiration was the film "Justice for All", with Al Pacino as a good-guy public attorney, but there IS NO BOOK for that one. Corruption everywhere. Corruption as SOP. For this, nothing succeeds like White Tiger, and The Beautyful Ones/Born. The action is incidental to the episodic portrayal of {pick your)-ism gone wrong. Post-revolutionary societies are quick to fall into grab-anything carpetbaggerism. You get the drift. Sclerotic, arthritic Rome does sound like fun, though. And Bolsheviks ? Don't get me started !!

'Muckraker' has come to be a pejorative term, and there's some basis for this, since too often it becomes about sexual peccadillos or financial opportunism. But many of the original muckrakers really were genuine reformers, hoping that if they revealed how abusive the sytem was, they'd begin to change things.

That was why I wanted to get more detail on Nellie Bly's expose of insane asylums, (and why I was fascinated by the article "On Being Sane in Insane Places"), and why, despite Riis' elitist bias, I took the time to dig up How The Other Half Lives, rather than take other people's word for what it said.

Valerie wrote: "'Muckraker' has come to be a pejorative term, and there's some basis for this, since too often it becomes about sexual peccadillos or financial opportunism. But many of the original muckrakers rea..."

I realize that "muckraker" is used pejoratively, that's in keeping with my motive for starting this list. When did it become bad form to say the Emperor has no clothes ?

Oh, in a lot of ways it always was. But the problem is that the focus is on 'corruption', rather than on how the system is inherently destructive. Illegal acts attract all the blame, and legal abuse is shrugged off. People who can't manage to stay within the law often lobby to change the laws--but that's not 'corruption', so it's not targeted.

I'm somewhat jaundiced on the subject--months of sleep deprivation have a way of doing that. But the sleep deprivation was done 'perfectly legally', so I of course I had no recourse. Not that I was particularly reconciled to institutionalized abuse before that--the sleep deprivation just made me more snappish about it.

Valerie wrote: "Oh, in a lot of ways it always was. But the problem is that the focus is on 'corruption', rather than on how the system is inherently destructive. Illegal acts attract all the blame, and legal ab..."

I wear a C-PAP to correct severe Obstructive Sleep Apnea. Can you relate ?

Indeed--but a ruling that you have no right to keep people out of your home at hours you find distinctly UNreasonable probably wouldn't improve matters, even in such a case.

I was a little at a loss here. I see a lot of books "about corruption" that tell good stories, but not a lot than really make a valid point. What are we going for? Oh well, no big deal.

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