The best science fiction books with internally consistent science.
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The Martian appears twice. :)
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Great. I've added a few from the hard sci-fi master, Greg Egan, and a Stephen Baxter and Charles Sheffield as well.
Interesting quote on using the term 'hard' to describe science fiction:From Max Gladstone: “Hardness” is a graph where the X axis starts at zero, and that’s, say, Star Wars—SF that doesn’t even mention math or orbital dynamics, but is still recognizably SF—and proceeds to, say, Apollo 13, which is so hard it’s not even fiction. On the y axis you have “quality.”You can place every SF text somewhere within that space, but no curve exists.
Sandy wrote: "Interesting quote on using the term 'hard' to describe science fiction:From Max Gladstone: “Hardness” is a graph where the X axis starts at zero, and that’s, say, Star Wars—SF that doesn’t even m..."
Awesome way of thinking of this :D Perfect.
Serious question: why is Asimov's Foundation so often considered as hard sf? While being entertaining reads, I don't see much (hard) science in there. Same goes for Dune. To me both series are prime examples of space operas. Am I missing something?
Hi Cristof:There are many interpretations of what constitutes hardness. I only read the first Foundation novel (and found it misogynistic, but that is a separate issue), and I think you have a good point that while he alludes to typically 'hard' qualifiers, like mathematics and engineering, the explanations are more hand-waving than elucidating. Although psychohistory, with its inherent sociology and economics, have enough development for internal consistency, many purists consider these sciences 'soft' and therefore outside the realm of consideration.
I read Dune about a hundred years ago and don't feel comfortable commenting, although I think similar arguments would apply.
Christof wrote: "Serious question: why is Asimov's Foundation so often considered as hard sf? While being entertaining reads, I don't see much (hard) science in there. Same goes for Dune. To me both series are prim..."My sentiments exactly. This is not an attack on Asimov's work, I just did not enjoy Foundation for that very reason. I did not view it as hard sf. Same with Dune. Both phenomenal books in themselves but far too often I see them listed with hard sf and I constantly find myself scratching my head at this. Glad I'm not alone.
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