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Andre
Andre is on page 511 of 752
right the use of term unification (tongyi) and never conquest (Zhengqu) is still used today, and all over, there is this constant claim of china splitting and unifying over and over. That is very nationalistic and kind of interesting how this seems to be the lasting legacy of the Qianlong emperor.
Feb 07, 2025 12:06AM Add a comment
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Andre
Andre is on page 509 of 752
oh right, the downplaying of the uniqueness of the Qing and claiming they are an extension of prior "Chinese" regimes. But their expansion was a sharp break with what the Ming did. Ironically, the Qing under Qianlong started this and that legacy is with us today. And by that Wei Yuan made 2 grave "errors:"
saying Taiwan is not a part of china from ancient times
favoring repression of popular rebellion
Feb 07, 2025 12:05AM Add a comment
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Andre
Andre is on page 505 of 752
I still wonder why western views of "China" changed in the late 18th century from admiration to contempt. What triggered this turn to the image of the sick man of Asia?
Feb 07, 2025 12:01AM Add a comment
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Andre
Andre is on page 499 of 752
True, western scholars tend to exaggerate foreign influence on thinkers like Wei Yuan and more.
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Andre
Andre is on page 286 of 752
What the Qianlong emperor wrote about the Zunghar sound like typical racist justification of extermination. And naturally he portrayed himself as the good guy. Sadly his example and how he got away with is all too common in history. As is the conflicting interpretation.
Feb 06, 2025 11:53PM Add a comment
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Andre
Andre is on page 284 of 752
So his use of massacre for ethnic extermination was definitely only restricted to the Zunghar, has been almost completely ignored by modern scholars, were atypical for Qing policy and more typical of the central eurasian practice, but even there it was usually only the young warriors who resisted, the surrendered ones could keep their tribal identity or marry the victors because the tribe needed people.
Feb 06, 2025 11:48PM Add a comment
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Andre
Andre is on page 283 of 752
The Qianlong emperor is getting more radical, he constantly says that the Zunghar should be exterminated. First still sparing the old and weak, but not later. He ordered starvation tactics, the zunghar that were made slaves and bondservants could not preserve their tribal identity (names, titles etc.) so that does count as genocide. In fact he punished commanders who were too lenient.
Feb 06, 2025 11:44PM Add a comment
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Andre
Andre is on page 231 of 752
One official being condemned to death for criticizing the emperor and another for saying money was wasted on troops. Sure both were pardoned but come on.
Feb 04, 2025 11:22PM Add a comment
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Andre
Andre is on page 225 of 752
Not going to lie, this book can be quite longwinded. I am still at the conquests of the Kangxi emperor and I am thinking of stopping this book.
Feb 03, 2025 11:25PM Add a comment
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Andre
Andre is on page 209 of 752
Interesting thought. I never considered execution to be a ritual with proper eticette as well. And it makes sense that it has a religious aspect here as the total destruction of Galdan's remains were to also eliminate his spirit from the world. And boy, even the executions and punishments mentioned sound brutal.
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Andre
Andre is on page 192 of 752
Of course the Kangxi emperor has his victory written as some great feat that no one before could have done. He claimed to have pacified the border and exterminated the mongol threat.
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