European Non-English Speaking Women Writers. That is this list is only for women writers who are born in Europe and have another first language than English.
The point, as in Women Around the World , is to move away from a focus on American and British writers (and in this case the European male writers).
The point, as in Women Around the World , is to move away from a focus on American and British writers (and in this case the European male writers).
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Sep 29, 2014 11:42PM
Isn't Donna Leon mis-matched here? She's neither European (she's American even though she has been living in Europe for a long time) nor is she Non-English speaking (her fiction is set in Italy but is written in English and hasn't been published in Italian yet).
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Great list! Are you OK with anyone adding books to it?A couple of thoughts:
- Sandi Toksvig may be Danish by birth, but I'm pretty sure she writes in English.
- Maj Sjöwall wrote together with her husband (as Sjöwall/Wahlöö).
I think it's alright if authors write in English so long as English wasn't their first language, but I'll bow to Leajk on this matter.
Tea Obreht is Serbian but writes in English (not to mention lives in America). Is she still eligeable for this list?
Hm, yeah I've been thinking if maybe it would be easier if the book have to be originally published in another language than English, which sadly would exclude books like 'Out of Africa' and 'The Scarlett Pimpernell', which I wanted to include, because they still represent non-British female writers. I'll simply have to make another list that's stricter and narrower, and we'll have this one for a broader definition of non-English Europe - which includes Tea Obreht and Sandi Toksvig.
(Although I have to say I'm still a bit doubtful about Toksvig if she mainly writes in English, lives there in the UK and doesn't write about Denmark, but rather about the UK?)
Björn: I don't see a problem with adding Maj Sjöwall, she's awesome (as is her male co-author)!
I don't see a problem with adding Maj Sjöwall, she's awesome (as is her male co-author)! Me neither, I just wanted to be clear on the rules. :)
(I actually got a hug from Maj Sjöwall a couple of years ago. Made my month.)
And Belgium, France, Luxemburg, Ukraine, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Greece, Austra, Switzerland and all the former Yugoslavian states are missing from the tags too.
Just to double check, do we have books from all of those countries yet? For example Belgium, Luxembourg and Switzerland?
Switzerland: Johanna Spyri (Heidi)Belgium: Amélie Nothomb
Luxemburg: I'm not sure
Ukraine: Clarice Lispector
Austria: Elfriede Jelinek
Romania: Herta Müller
France: e.g. Francoise Sagan
Greece: Sappho
Russia: Sofia Kovalevskaya
Hungary: Magda Szabó
Serbia: Téa Obreht
Turkey: Esmahan Aykol (I don't know if you want to count Turkey as part of Europe)
Croatia: Dubravka Ugrešić
Ellinor wrote: "Switzerland: Johanna Spyri (Heidi)Belgium: Amélie Nothomb
Luxemburg: I'm not sure
Ukraine: Clarice Lispector
Austria: Elfriede Jelinek
Romania: Herta Müller
France: e.g. Francoise Sagan
Greece: Sa..."
Nothomb was born in Japan, so does she still count for Belgium?
Aubrey wrote: "Ellinor wrote: "Switzerland: Johanna Spyri (Heidi)Belgium: Amélie Nothomb
Luxemburg: I'm not sure
Ukraine: Clarice Lispector
Austria: Elfriede Jelinek
Romania: Herta Müller
France: e.g. Francoise ..."
Interesting: Wikipedia says that she was born in Brussels: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A9... but the author's homepage says she was born in Japan.
But there is another author for Belgium, Kristien Hemmerechts.
According to Wikipedia again (I suspect the article has been translated from French): "Although Nothomb claims to be born in Japan, she discovers Japan in actuality at the age of two, living there until she was five years old"
Aha, well thank you Leajk. I'd been invited to vote on so many of Aubrey's lists I forgot to check whose this one was.
Turkey is Asia except for any part of Istanbul which is on the European side of the sea. The old city of Constantinople was the gateway between the continents.
Ok so while I agree that traditionally only Istanbul is a part of Europe, I think the whole traditional definition system is broken. First of all I don't see why Europe get's to be a 'continent' all of it's own, while countries as different as China, Japan, Thailand, India, Afghanistan, Syria, Saudi-Arabia are just all crammed into Asia.I’m sure you meant nothing much with your comment, but I realized that this is something of a pet peeve of mine so I also went on a rather enjoyable google/wikipedia-binge of Turkish history, this is the short version:
- the entire Western coastline was an essential part of ancient Greek culture, we have Pythagaros born at Samos (just of the coast of Turkey, though today Greek), and philosophers such as Anaximander and Thales born in present day Turkey
- Turkey was just as an integral part of the Roman empire as any ’Western’ European country, in fact when the Roman empire split up the new Christian center of East Rome became Constantinople (or Istanbul)
- Turkey was also an integral part of early Christianity, being the birth place of Paulus and Saint Nicholas (Santa Claus!), and beside Constantinople had Antioch as a central Christian center, it was also the home of Haga Sophia the largest cathedral in the world for a thousand years
- Emperor Justinius of the Byzantine Empire laid the foundation of the legal system we have in Europe today
- the Ottoman empire was a major influence in Europe during it’s over 600 year old history during which it at times ruled over Greece, Hungary, Balkan and Bulgaria
All in all Turkey, Turkish people have been a part of all the central classical themes of European history: ancient Greek philosophy, the Roman Empire and early Christianity, it has also later wielded it’s own influence such as playing a part in Islam’s spread to the Balkans
Hope it's okay I just added Unwanted author is and writes it in Swedish, and Butterflies in November author is and writes in Icelandic.
Leajk wrote: "Ok so while I agree that traditionally only Istanbul is a part of Europe, I think the whole traditional definition system is broken. First of all I don't see why Europe get's to be a 'continent' al..."In light of your analysis, Leajk, may I add Turkish authors to the list?
Just for the sake of clarity:While the area of Asia Minor certainly features prominently in the classical age it is worth noting that the Turks were a nomadic steppe people who only invaded it 1000 years ago (which is why they, more or less, share the same language as many central Asian countries). That said, the Ottoman Empire and later Republic of Turkey have had long lasting political and cultural ties to Europe (not least being Atatürk's adoption of the Latin alphabet.) Considering it is in the process of acceding to the European Union and a NATO member it is perfectly reasonable to consider Turkey a modern European state. If the standard of this list were based on books written in European languages other than English then you would have an issue... although you'd be including Latin American writers.*
*The technicality of Clarice Lispector's birth notwithstanding.
** Also, the concept of a European continent long predates the discovery of plate tectonics (blame the Ancient Greeks) -- feel free to call everything Eurasia. And India is literally crammed into Asia :P
Not to be nit-picky, but Karen Blixen/Isak Dinesen wrote in English.Also, I'm pretty sure Clarice Lispector is considered a Brazilian writer (as Zero pointed out).
Otherwise, great list -- thank you! So much I haven't read!
Yes, I've discussed this already (see message 8), turns put it's really hard to draw exact national or language boarders because so many people are multinational or multilingual, which is awesome of course. As I've mentioned before I decided, for this list, that it was "better to free than to convict" (as we say in Swedish). Thank you and happy reading!
Lovely list! Several Dutch authors were born in Indonesia when it was still a Dutch colony. They are considered Dutch (as they wrote in Dutch/spoke Dutch), even though they weren't born in The Netherlands and only moved here later on.
@LeajkAlthough it doesn't say so in the description, I'm assuming the titles mentioned in the Listopia have to be available in English as well?
Booklovinglady wrote: "@LeajkAlthough it doesn't say so in the description, I'm assuming the titles mentioned in the Listopia have to be available in English as well?"
Well no I don't think they have to be available in English. I mean there are a lot of us here on Goodreads that don't have English as our native language and don't mind reading books in e.g. French.
However most of the popular books on this list seem to have an English translation. Why do you ask?
Also interesting note about the Dutch books :)
Leajk wrote: "Well no I don't think they have to be available in English. I mean there are a lot of us here on Goodreads that don't have English as our native language and don't mind reading books in e.g. French. However most of the popular books on this list seem to have an English translation. Why do you ask?
Also interesting note about the Dutch books :) ..."
If I don't have to add books that have been translated into English, then there are heaps of interesting books available in Dutch and Flemish.... :-) So far I've only been adding books which have been translated into English, but now that I have a free hand :-)
Quite a lot of Dutch books have been translated into other languages than Engish (German, French, one of the Scandanavian languages). Hella S. Haasse's work for instance only has four or so of her books translated into English, but lots into French.
Laurence wrote: "Clarice Lispector problem +1"I agree. She was very young when she moved to Brazil and is seen as a Brazilian author.
On the other hand, it could be said that she fit - female author (check), born in Europe (check), native language is not English (check)?
Susanna - Censored by GoodReads wrote: "On the other hand, it could be said that she fit - female author (check), born in Europe (check), native language is not English (check)?"Which is undoubtedly why she is on the list :-)
Add to the List Maria Gabriela llansol
Margaret Mazzantini - Dont Move
Clara Pinto Correa - Adeus Princesa
Ana Maria Matute
Dulce Maria Cardoso
Carmen Martin Gaite
Soledad Puertólas
Clara Janes
Belen Gopegui
Marta Sanz
Carme Riera
Hélia Corrêa
Maria da Velho Costa
Sophia de Mello Breyner
Wasn't The Scarlet Pimpernel (#20) originally published in English? (The title of the Listopia is 'Europe Minus Men and English')














