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A long, interesting, but kind of rambly chapter about the classic apologetic "proofs" for God's existence.
Apr 01, 2026 07:03PM
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Andrew Meredith
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"If we are prepared to countenance the prospect that our religiously inclined forebears, the myriad adherents of religious traditions, and the vast bulk of past philosophers, are not our intellectual inferiors, we have good grounds for questioning our present naturalistic commitments."
Apr 10, 2026 06:09PM
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Andrew Meredith
Andrew Meredith is on page 346 of 488
A secular myth: Humanity is inevitably, successively progressing away from it's dark, animalistic origins toward a golden age of universal science, reason, prosperity, and felicity, but to do so, it must collectively learn to throw off the shackles of ignorance especially characterized by superstition (both primitive animism and religion).
Apr 09, 2026 03:58PM
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Andrew Meredith
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Word of the day: corpuscular.
Apr 07, 2026 03:14AM
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Harrison traces the philosophical rise of methodological naturalism (assuming for the sake of neutrality and natural science that God is not involved).
Apr 03, 2026 06:43AM
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"For those who regarded reason as an instrument of calculation – reason as ratiocination – rational religion might be understood as a minimalist religion consisting only in those truths that were rationally comprehensible and supported by argument." This led to the rise of the "Deists" and to a new, very rational form of Christianity.
Mar 30, 2026 11:19AM
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For the Church Fathers (channeling Platonism), reason and true knowledge came about by the soul being taught by God (the Sun's illumination of the soul, in Augustine's famous analogy). "When the mind makes a true judgment, it is in contact with something that is eternal and unchanging." Thus reason, as with any other source of knowledge, was seen as both intertwined with and subordinate to revelation.
Mar 29, 2026 11:39AM
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Andrew Meredith
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The Reformers reacted strongly to the Roman Church's understanding of "implicit faith" (for good reasons) and set out to re-Christen Christiandom with explicit knowledge of true doctrine. In so doing, however, they both individualized and intellectualized the concept of true faith, setting off a chain reaction that is still reverberating today.
Mar 27, 2026 11:34AM
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Harrison traces the meaning of "pistis" (Greek) / "credo" (Latin) through Church and philosophical history to explain how and why the word(s) changed meaning from "trust/allegiance" to "belief/faith" (to be understood in the modern parlance of "assent to spiritual propositional truths").

He places the blame primarily with the introduction of Aristotle and his logical definition of true knowledge in the Middle Ages.
Mar 25, 2026 12:02PM
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Past the intro and the first chapter.

I'm going to enjoy this book. It's speaking my heart language.
Mar 24, 2026 02:49PM
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Andrew Meredith When it came to proofs for God's existence, none was more popular or more important than the "consensus gentium" (the agreement of the nations). "At the beginning of the eighteenth century, Henry Lee observed that ‘the first and most popular Argument, which is generally brought for proving the Existence of God, is, the universal Consent of Mankind’. John Stuart Mill could still endorse this assessment almost 200 years later, stating that ‘no argument for the truth of theism is more commonly invoked or more confidently relied on, than the general assent of mankind’."

And it made sense to use this argument. The list of true atheists (those who philosophically denied the existence of a god or metaphysical higher power) was vanishingly small. Less than a handful in all of human history. It was evident to all that to exist at all was to believe in God. For most of history, it wasn't even an "argument" per se, rather it was a "principle," even the first principle, necessary for all other knowledge, logic, or reasoning to exist.

"The principle was, in fact, common even among classical philosophers. Plato observed that ‘it looks easy enough to speak the truth in saying that gods exist …. All mankind, Greeks and non-Greeks alike, believe in the existence of gods.’ Aristotle remarked similarly that ‘all men have a conception of gods, and assign the highest place to the divine’. We encounter a more developed argument in the Stoic philosophers Cicero and Seneca, who show a concern to refute the claim that the gods were a political invention. Both thinkers insisted that belief in the gods was natural rather than conventional. In a passage that made an almost obligatory appearance in early modern discussions, Cicero linked universal consensus, innateness, and necessary truth: ‘Belief in the gods has not been established by authority, custom, or law, but rests on the unanimous and abiding consensus of mankind; their existence is therefore a necessary inference, since we possess an instinctive or rather an innate concept of them.’"

"It is also significant that after the brief statement of each ‘proof’ Aquinas concludes with a common formula: ‘and this everyone understands to be God’; ‘to which everyone gives the name God’; ‘this all men speak of as God’, and so on. For Aquinas, ‘everyone’ thus already holds that God exists, consistent with his earlier remark that all have implanted within them knowledge of God, albeit ‘in a general and confused way’.

The function of the ‘proofs’, then, is not to provide rational evidence for a proposition that might otherwise be in doubt  – not, in other words to satisfy some ‘ethics of belief’ requirement about the existence of God – but to provide insights into a conception of God that is held universally, if vaguely."

"In the eighteenth century’s best-selling multi-volume work of physico-theology, 'Le spectacle de la nature', Noël Antoine Pluche similarly proposed, on his title page, that a central goal of physico-theology was ‘the formation of the minds of the youth’. Pluche explicitly rejected the goal of proving the existence of God as ‘at best unprofitable and needless’ since in reality there are no atheists. The point of the exercise was not to offer a demonstrative proof, but ‘to open our Eyes, and receive Instruction’."

Descartes would challenge this paradigm, and though in the end he would affirm the general idea of God's existence, it was as an argued for "idea" of God instead of a given innate principle. Locke would famously go further by denying innate "principles" altogether with his "tabula rasa." According to Locke, minds are born with a propensity to understand ideas/principles, but the ideas/principles must be presented to them .

No apologist uses the consensus gentium argument today. It strikes our ears more like an odd anthropological fact than a proof of anything substantial. It's important here to note this social change itself. "The demise [of this argument] signals how the burden of proof has gradually shifted over the past four centuries so that belief in the existence of God, rather than atheism, is thought to require rational justification."


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